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  • #16653

    Clay Hunter
    Keymaster

    The endless debate… I realize this can quickly become the Ford/Chevy debate, but debate it we will!

  • #16734

    BRASF0311
    Participant

    I like big bores like the 44 mag and 45 colt, but the 7.62X39 from a 10″ Encore has been doing very well.

    Both of these were taken with 154gr JSP.

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    Big Jake

    Big Bore Handgun Hunter Channel
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpn3FnTEBMlEhpfJ9AQhTog/featured

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  • #16758

    Bill Stewart
    Participant

    For deer I have been very happy with my 35 Remington Rimmed that I shoot from a 16″ stainless MGM Contender barrel. Mine is based off of a 30-40 Krag case, but others have done the same thing using 303 British cases.

  • #16806

    white eagle
    Participant

    I like big bores too

    I have a 9.5″ 475 Linebaugh just got it last year no chance to harvest anything with it

  • #16811

    Harry
    Participant

    While I do not hunt anything other than paper you would be hard pressed to find a better cartridge than the 357 maximum. If loaded correctly it can shoot as well as the 308 with a lot less recoil.

    • #16868

      RR
      Participant

      Gotta agree that the .357 Maximum is a real gem of a cartridge. A 24″ stainless MGM barrel is high on my want list (before next deer season), and should extract a lot of ballistic potential out of that cartridge. Considering my Encore measures 43″ with its 28″ .243 barrel, a 24″ .357 Maximum barrel would transform it into a SMOKIN’ little 39″ carbine!

      "No brag; just fact!"- Will Sonnett

  • #16859

    renwickje84
    Participant

    I am patiently awaiting a 15.8 inch 6.5 grendel barrel for my G2 Contender pistol. I too usually go the big bore route for hunting cartridges. My performance center  500 S&W revolver and 450 bushmaster Ruger American  are two of my favorites. However I wanted to do something different this time. I wanted a pistol for both long range target shooting and deer hunting. The grendel is a super efficient cartridge capable of taking medium game out to 350+ yards. I can’t wait to try it out. Here are some ballistics for a 123gr sst out of a 16in barrel.

  • #16860

    renwickje84
    Participant

    Sorry the image didn’t upload, but according to my ballistics calculator a 123gr SST with a muzzle velocity of 2450 fps is still going over 1900 fps at 350yds with around 1,000 ft lbs of energy. Not to shabby for such a small cartridge.

  • #17057

    Terrier
    Participant

    I’m something of a recoil wimp, so I prefer the smaller bores/calibers.  The biggest thing I have in a CFR caliber is a 308, but I haven’t shot that one enough to even get a good load worked up for it.  I really like my 6×45 MGM barrel, but normally deer hunt with a 357 Maximum 18″ Stainless MGM barrel on my Encore.  Plenty of punch and reach, and very little kick.  I’ve taken a few deer with a subsonic 300 Blackout MGM, as well.  I liked the rifle so much, I got an Encore pistol receiver and ordered in a MGM 300 Blackout for hunting in the thick woods.  Using a 220 gr bullet at subsonic velocity and suppressor, it’ll put the wammy on them, not kick, and hearing protection not required!

  • #17214

    Terrier
    Participant

    Gotta agree that the .357 Maximum is a real gem of a cartridge. A 24″ stainless MGM barrel is high on my want list (before next deer season), and should extract a lot of ballistic potential out of that cartridge. Considering my Encore measures 43″ with its 28″ .243 barrel, a 24″ .357 Maximum barrel would transform it into a SMOKIN’ little 39″ carbine!

    I got my MGM 257 Maximum in an 18″ length.  It’s awesome, tho it does tend to shoot a little high and left on the first shot.  Until I got it cyro’d at 300 Below, it was about 2″ high and 1″ left.  Cryo dropped that in half.  By the third shot, it’ll hold a 1/2″ to 3/4″ group from then on.

  • #17481

    bird-hunters
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    I like my 24″ 450 Bushmaster MGM barrel.  Fired 25 shots cleaning every shot through 10 and then every 5 after to break it in.  Then I zeroed it at 50 yards using Cutting Edge Raptors and 45Gr. H110 powder at a velocity of 2,651 FPS.  This gives me a 5 shot group at 100 yards 1/2 inch high of center and less than 1 inch in size.  It is then 3.1 inches low at 200 yards.   Which is about as far as it will maintain energy and velocity for humane kills.  (1839 FPS and energy of 1202 FT LBS).  I have several barrels in different calibers and the MGM 450 is my favorite.  I have a Belm 6.8 SPC barrel that shoots a smaller group but the 450 is my go to for most game.  If I hunt more open country I use a 35 Whelen barrel as it gives about 350 to 400  yards humane kill range.

    Being stuck in Commiefornia I have to start using non lead bullets so I have tried nearly all of them over the past few years.  This is the most expensive bullet but it is very terminal for Deer, Bear and Hogs.  Barnes, E-Tip and the others just blow through.  Nice mushrooms but every deer I shot with them the bullet went through and the exit holes were pencil sized.  Dead dear but all ran for 50 to 200 yards after heart and lung shots.  The CE Raptor bullet creates one large exit hole and 4 to 6 smaller ones.  The other bullet that performs very well is the Lehigh Defense Controlled Chaos bullet.  The reason I have decided on the Raptor is that I weigh every bullet and separate them by actual weight.  The Raptors in every box weigh exactly the same.  The Chaos bullets will vary as much as 1 grain under to 1 grain over.  Now when considering that when I loaded lead bullets I would find that many would have as much as 3 grains under or over.  The most consistent of the lead bullets were from either Nosler or Sierra and the worst I found were Hornady bullets.  When weighing them to sort I would end up with 5 or 6 groups as they varied drastically.  So for precision reloading with the Raptors it is easy as each load will be exactly the same.

     

    The load I listed above works well in my 2 450 rifles but you should work up your own starting a grain or so under.  The pressure for the load above is 37101 PSI at 70 degrees and the Bushmaster SAAMI maximum is 39160 PSI.  The pressure of any load goes up at hotter temps.  This load at 95 degrees is 39047 so very near maximum.  Be careful my friends!

    Stuck in Commiefornia

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